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Buffalo
Bars 

Buddies
31 North Johnson Park at Elmwood Ave
Tel: (716) 855-1313
Mostly men; Leather Night 1st Saturday of Month, Bear Night 2nd Saturday of month. Crowd ranges from early twenties to mature. Friendly and party oriented bar.

The Underground
274 Delaware Avenue (nr. Johnson Park)
Tel: (716) 853-0092 Downtown neighborhood bar. Mixed-gay older crowd. Mostly men.

NY The Village
Bars 
Dick's Bar
192 2nd Ave
New York, NY 10003
Tel: 212-475-2071
Dick's is a refreshingly run-down and quaintly sleazy cheap-drinkin' place where one can spot the rare moustachioed leather daddy, who is most likely old enough actually to be your daddy. The sweaty debauchery that must have taken place here in the good old days you can only imagine. Good things: a jukebox that only a true '80s music fan would know, replete with classics like Gary Numan and Ultravox; dollar Old Milwaukees; and porn on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Bad things: showtune flicks on Mondays and the Dick shot -- creme de banana, butterscotch schnapps and Bailey's -- a Slimfast shake gone terribly wrong. It is also one of the only bars in the East Village where you can find an available bar stool on a Friday night at midnight.

The Duplex
61 Christopher St (Seventh Ave)
Tel: (212) 995-5170
Singers and comedians downstairs, cabaret shows and game room upstairs.

Boots and Saddle
76 Christopher Street
Phone: 212-929-9684
Western Levi bar. Older crowd. The bar is an institution. Walk by the front windows and be ogled night and day! Rustic inside. Small and cruisy. Overly friendly crowd.

Julius'
159 W 10th Street
Tel: 929 9672
Has a devoted clientele of mature men
Happy Hour Mon-Fri 4pm-9pm
Julius 159 W 10th St. New York City, NY 212.929.9672 Open 8PM-4AM Mon to This low-key landmark bar has a devoted longtime clientele of mature men, and some younger men who are looking to see if any of those "mature men" may be interested in a "younger man" for the evening! This bar has something, though, that distinguishes it from the competition-a grill, from which come some of the best burgers you are likely to taste anywhere! The bar is intimate and relaxed, and everyone seems to know everyone. If you order one of their delicious burgers, you can eat it while looking at the outside sights from a nearby window (or looking at the inside sites, which can be just as interesting)! There is a pool table and juke box, and the interior of Julius' reminds you of a comfortable den in a lodge, with the same wood tones and warm feeling

Marie's Crisis
59 Grove Street New York (Between Seventh Ave S and Bleecker St)
NY 10014
Tel: 212-243-9323
4:30pm-3:30am daily.
It is the mecca for anyone who loves showtunes and loves to sing. Even if you don't sing, the place is fun. Diverse clientelle.

The Monster
80 Grove Street
Phone: 212-924-3558
Probably the most popular bar in Greenwich Village. Right on Sheridan Square across from the infamous Stonewall. Happy piano bar on ground level draws older crowd, downstairs dance floor draws younger guys. There is a cover charge on weekends.

Rose's Turn Inc
55 Grove St
New York, NY 10014
Rose's Turn is a loud, raucous, smoky piano bar that features a terrific singing staff, alternating pianists and an open mike policy every night of the week. On weekends Rose's becomes the Village's only "rock-n-roll piano bar" with Bill Graves playing everything from show tunes to jazz standards as well as hits from the 60's, 70's and today! Broadway veteran Terri White keeps the place hopping with tunes like Mustang Sally and Proud Mary. Bartenders Michael Dionne and Michael Barbieri put on their own show behind the bar, by singing back-up harmonies and with their synchronized tambourine choreography. Waitress Kimlee Hicks knocks people out with her renditions of Janis Joplin classics and humorous Broadway show tunes. Upstairs is a comedy club where (mainly) drag artists torment entertain their straight victims audience.

Ty's Bar
114 Christopher St
New York, NY 10014
Tel: (212) 741-9641
Cross Street: Between Bedford and Bleecker Streets.
Like a gay version of Cheers with a friendly older crowd of jeans and T-shirted regulars. They'll want to know all about you so be prepared to introduce yourself.

Urge Lounge
33 2nd Ave
New York, NY 10003
Tel : (212) 533-5757
Cross Street: 2nd Street
Where Chelsea style meets East Village grunge. An ingenious, two-tiered bar--high on one side, low on the other, with untold cruising sightlines--dominates this thoroughly transformed space, whose mirrors and plasma screens help open up its railroad layout. Ultrasuede banquettes and creamy pillows and a conversation-friendly DJ also make it easy to spend time here.

NY Midtown
Bars
Caterina's

316 East 53rd Street
Tel: 212-355-5360
Kelly Briggs and many of the folks from Regent's have moved across the street to host nightly piano bar, Wednesday through Saturday, 8:00 to 12:00 pm and Sunday Brunch at this Italian/Hungarian bar and restaurant. Regent's attracted a mostly older crowd (many 60+).

Cleo's 9th Avenue Saloon
656 Ninth Ave.,
NY 10036;
Tel: (212) 307-1503
This friendly little bar is an island of normality amid a sea of midtown sleaze -- well, as normal as gays can be.
Report 02/03 "It is very mature friendly and reminds me of what Boots and Saddles was like 10 years ago."

Don't Tell Mama
343 West 46th Street (bet. 8th and 9th Aves)
Tel: (212) 757-0788
Type: Piano Bar, Cabaret & Revue, Bar, After Work Area: Midtown West Go to Official Web Site Piano bar with a couple of cabaret rooms in the back. Features everything from Musical revue to comedy.

The Townhouse  
236 East 58th Street (between 2nd & 3rd Ave.) 
Tel: 754 4694 
Elegant bar on two levels. Piano bar upstairs. Smart crowd. 
When I was there the crowd seemed to be mostly from their 20s to about 60 
The Townhouse is definitely the "dress to impress" locale in New York. Lots of beautifully cut suits and tasteful neckwear. The downside of this is that the atmosphere tends to be competitive, rather than friendly. There are a LOT of guys cruising, or maybe just posing. A friend tells me that there are quite a few high-priced hustlers (the old crowd from "Rounds") there. They have a discreet sign at the entrance requesting that solicitations for money be reported to the management. The fact that they NEED the sign says something. Best before 1am if you want to meet a nice guy.
Gray-40%, Admirer-20%, Rent-10%, Music Level 7, Cruise Factor 7, Elegance 10 
Report: Feb 2002
"Wish you could, for the sake of naive older gents that might read the guide, include a little heads up on the Townhouse in Manhattan. Unlike the wonderful ex bar called Regent East that was on the same street, where the management did not allow hustlers in, the Townhouse doesn't mind the many hustlers the frequent the place. It's a shame to watch these foolish unattractive older men who honestly think they are driving these hot looking younger guys mad, only to get home with them and find out the price. I've had many a conversation with older guys that have been propositioned there. Just this evening as I walked home, I passed the Townhouse, where a hustler was harassing a john on the street, another guy happened to walk by at the same time and was knocked to the ground we he tried to intervene. So perhaps you could add this info as an update and maybe the management finally will address this situation."

Uncle Charlie's Cocktail & Piano Lounge
139 East 45th Street (2nd Floor) (Across from the NY Health & Racquet Club)
New York
NY 10017
Tel: (212) 661-9097
Email: info@unclecharliesnyc.com
Mid-block on 45th Street Between 3rd and Lexington
Subway - take the 4, 5, 6, 7 or the Grand Central/Times Square Shuttle (S) to Grand Central.
Open Monday through Saturday 4PM to 4AM, and Sunday from 3PM to 4AM. Happy hour drink prices from opening until 9PM. Singer/Pianist DAVID PELLEGRENE Thursday, Friday and Saturday after 9PM. Also open mic. Silver Daddies Party every Sunday. Outdor patio for smokers. Uncle Charlie's hosts a special cabaret evening every Thursday. A comfy lounge, outdoor patio, friendly staff, and a five hour happy hour. It's half-a-block from Grand Central -- the only gay bar in the area -- attracting well-dressed commuters on their way home.

Bar
Regents
317 E 53rd Street
August 2004. The ground floor bar has closed (to become a Mexican restaurant) the upstairs piano bar is still going apparently although many of the staff have moved across the street to Caterina's.

Resturants  
The Townhouse Restaurant   Closed

Baths/Sauana
East Side Club

227 e. 56, (bath) and the 227 Spa,
(both owned by the Townhouse people.)
Older Men 50%, Admirers 25%, Rent/Hustlers 0%, Music Level 1,Cruise Factor 10
Comments "The East Side Club is on 3 levels connected by stairs. The club consists of many rooms in 3 different sizes and lockers. Temporary membership is required
along with payment for the "changing" rooms or lockers. ID is required. When
we were there at midnight on Saturday we had to wait in line to get in and there were only lockers available. The club is located in a commercial building in midtown which is very discreet. Since the club was fairly crowded there was a lot of activity in the halls, in a video room as well as in the changing rooms. We had a great time and plan to return."

Report 07/2001: "The club is more frequented by guys in their 30's-40's. In the afternoons sometimes you might see 50% older men,but in the evening the crowd gets younger as it gets later. I recommend being there any time between 1-9pm to increase your chances of finding a nice older man."

Uptown
Bars
Brandy's Piano Bar
235 E. 84th St. (Between 2nd and 3rd Aves)
NY 10028
Tel: 212-650-1944
4pm-4am daily; Piano 9:30pm-3am
"Cheers"- style bar with a piano and a great atmosphere.

Pegasus
119 E. 60th St., (212) 888-4702.
Nice crowd; piano bar at night. Mostly older, with some admirers.

Candle Bar
309 Amsterdam Avenue (at 74th Street)
NY 10023
2pm-4am Mon-Sun
Subway: 1, 2, 3, 9 at 72nd Street
Tel: +1 212 874 9155
Despite a healthy gay population on the Upper West Side, there are surprisingly few locations in the area catering to gay men. Candle Bar is one of the rare ones, a cozy spot dominated by a crowd of local, older guys. It offers pool, a generous happy hour from 2p to 9p from Monday to Friday, and daily drink specials. Service is friendly and professional. In other words, it fits right into the neighborhood. Cash only. (Candle Bar is also one of the original pre-Stonewall bars - see History Section)

Groups/Organisations

Jovian Gentlemen
Tel: (212) 592-3831 Domenico
A social group for mature men meets 3rd Tues 8-10 p.m
Third Tuesday at L&G Center
Meets first Tuesday at Manhole (28 9th Ave), 8pm

Prime Timers 
New York Prime Timers
Lenox Hill Station
PO Box 1185
New York, NY 10021-1185
nyprime69@yahoo.com
Social group for mature men and admirers

Veterans of Stonewall
(800) 841-4588
Meets the 4th Wed 8 p.m. in New York City and has twenty members who were there at the semi-annual event, who are 'out' these days.

Fire Island

The nearest gay resort to NY is Fire Island near Long Island, which is reachable by ferry approx. 1hour from Sayville, Long Island. Fire Island is very much a low-key gay resort, there are few hotels and nightlife is mainly private parties.

There are two distinct communities on Fire Island - The Pines which tends to cater for the young, bronzed and muscle-toned male and Cherry Grove which caters for everyone else (including many lesbians) and particularly the more mature crowd. The Pines has the more lively bars and Cherry Grove has the better restaurants.

The two communities are divided by an undeveloped stretch of dunes and pines nicknamed "The Meat Rack" which is an active cruise area day and night.

Accommodations are in short supply (200 beds total for both communities so book early) or rent a house or find a friend who owns one! All accommodations and restaurants are very expensive in season.

Bars

Cherry Grove
Cherry's
Bayview Walk
Tel: 516 597 6820
Two bars including an outside piano bar under an awning which has a stage for entertainment. Mixture of ages and many regulars.

Restaurants
Top of the Bay
Dock Walk
Tel: 516 597 6699
The best restaurant on the island. Attracts a more mature crowd.

Queens
Friends Tavern
78-11 Roosevelt Avenue (Between 78th & 79th St)
Jackson Heights, Queens
NY 11372
Open 4pm to 4am
Tel 718 397-7256
Trains E-F-R-G-V- To Roosevelt Ave Or #7 to 74th Street & walk 4 short blocks
Very Friendly Staff. Inexpensive when compared to the rest of NY. Only 10 minutes from midtown by train. Mixed Ethnically But With A Latino Flair. One of the Owners Frequented GH Club. Hustlers not allowed.
Gray 30%, Admirer 30%, Rent 0%, Music 5, Cruise 4, Elegance = 2
Happy Hour IS 4pm to 8pm. Older Crowd hangs around until Midnight.

Rochester
Tara Lounge (site appears to be broken)
153 Liberty Pole Way
NY 14604
Tel: 232-4719
This friendly neighborhood gay bar has a great outdoor patio. Tara has a piano bar upstairs with live entertainment on many nights. Check out their website for specials. Older crowd.

Troy
River Street Club
540 River Street
Hoosick St
Tel: (518) 272-0340
membership@riverstreetclub.com
Open daily at Noon. Sunday thru Thursday. Closed at 11:00pm
Friday & Saturday. Closed at 2:00am
Many older guys in their 50s especially daytimes.

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